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What about using the WordPress.com official app? Not sure about your
platform, so maybe you can't use it, but it seems to work pretty well.

Of course, that doesn't mean you don't still want a plugin, or you're about
to announce one and this was a lead in...

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:32 PM Alan Ezust via jEdit-devel <
jedit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> ------------------------------
>
> * [plugin-feature-requests:#390]
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/jedit/plugin-feature-requests/390/> WordPress
> editor plugin*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Group:*
> *Created:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC by Alan Ezust
> *Last Updated:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> I hate editing things in a web browser, especially when it is browsing
> WordPress.
> I wish I could edit pages/content from jEdit.
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I never tried the app before. I just downloaded it and tried it.
The wordpress site I want to edit is not hosted on wordpress.com though, so
it seems I must add a plugin to this.
So I still don't know what it is like to use yet.


On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:37 AM, James <geniosity@gmail.com> wrote:

> What about using the WordPress.com official app? Not sure about your
> platform, so maybe you can't use it, but it seems to work pretty well.
>
> Of course, that doesn't mean you don't still want a plugin, or you're
> about to announce one and this was a lead in...
>
>

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Do you need to install JetPack?

There are quite a few benefits to installing it (I think), mainly for
things like using the WP CDN for your images. I also like the way they do
the "related posts".

But, if you don't want to install it for other reasons, I guess you'll need
a jEdit plugin :)



On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:45 PM Alan Ezust <ezust@users.sourceforge.net>
wrote:

> I never tried the app before. I just downloaded it and tried it.
> The wordpress site I want to edit is not hosted on wordpress.com though,
> so it seems I must add a plugin to this.
> So I still don't know what it is like to use yet.
>
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:37 AM, James <geniosity@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What about using the WordPress.com official app? Not sure about your
>> platform, so maybe you can't use it, but it seems to work pretty well.
>>
>> Of course, that doesn't mean you don't still want a plugin, or you're
>> about to announce one and this was a lead in...
>>
>>

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I tried to install Jetpack but the instructions do not work on my particular combo of platform, wordpress server, and browser.

Ok, that's strange. I wonder if it's a port thing or something.

If you'd like assistance debugging that, and you'd like to take it out of
the jEdit discussion, feel free to respond directly. I don't pretend to
think I know anything you don't, but in case you'd like a second pair of
eyes, let me know.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:43 PM Alan Ezust via jEdit-devel <
jedit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> I tried to install Jetpack but the instructions do not work on my
> particular combo of platform, wordpress server, and browser.
> ------------------------------
>
> * [plugin-feature-requests:#390]
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/jedit/plugin-feature-requests/390/> WordPress
> editor plugin*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Group:*
> *Created:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC by Alan Ezust
> *Last Updated:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> I hate editing things in a web browser, especially when it is browsing
> WordPress.
> I wish I could edit pages/content from jEdit.
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As far as I can tell, that list is for developing in WordPress as opposed
to posting articles/posts/pages to WordPress which is what I understood
your plugin suggestion to mean.

And, jEdit should be on there if you feel it compares to those editors as a
PHP "IDE". I've used it for WordPress coding in the past many times, but
I'm not exactly a full time WP developer.

An example of the items that they list for the other editors and matches
jEdit perfectly:
- It has a simple interface with many features including multiple cursors
and themes
- search and replace
- code hints
- syntax highlighting
- and database management capabilities.

Maybe the last item is a bit "iffy" for beginners in jEdit, but it's
definitely doable.

Perhaps one day when "plugin packs" are implemented where you could have a
"WordPress pack" that installs any plugins (as a batch) specific to
WordPress, it would be easier to set up for noobies to jEdit. Or, perhaps
help articles showing what's needed for each environment in a "getting
started" type page?

I hope all that made sense.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:05 PM Dale Anson <dale@daleanson.com> wrote:

> I'm not at all up on Wordpress, but I did run across this article:
>
> https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/best-text-editors-wordpress/
>
> It lists a bunch of text editors that work well with Wordpress. jEdit
> isn't listed, but it has all the capabilities of the ones on the list. What
> else would you need besides the XML plugin?
>
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 1:46 PM, James <geniosity@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, that's strange. I wonder if it's a port thing or something.
>>
>> If you'd like assistance debugging that, and you'd like to take it out of
>> the jEdit discussion, feel free to respond directly. I don't pretend to
>> think I know anything you don't, but in case you'd like a second pair of
>> eyes, let me know.
>>
>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:43 PM Alan Ezust via jEdit-devel <
>> jedit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried to install Jetpack but the instructions do not work on my
>>> particular combo of platform, wordpress server, and browser.
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> * [plugin-feature-requests:#390]
>>> <https://sourceforge.net/p/jedit/plugin-feature-requests/390/> WordPress
>>> editor plugin*
>>>
>>> *Status:* open
>>> *Group:*
>>> *Created:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC by Alan Ezust
>>> *Last Updated:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC
>>> *Owner:* nobody
>>>
>>> I hate editing things in a web browser, especially when it is browsing
>>> WordPress.
>>> I wish I could edit pages/content from jEdit.
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Sent from sourceforge.net because jedit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net is
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I'm not at all up on Wordpress, but I did run across this article:

https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/best-text-editors-wordpress/

It lists a bunch of text editors that work well with Wordpress. jEdit isn't
listed, but it has all the capabilities of the ones on the list. What else
would you need besides the XML plugin?


On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 1:46 PM, James <geniosity@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, that's strange. I wonder if it's a port thing or something.
>
> If you'd like assistance debugging that, and you'd like to take it out of
> the jEdit discussion, feel free to respond directly. I don't pretend to
> think I know anything you don't, but in case you'd like a second pair of
> eyes, let me know.
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:43 PM Alan Ezust via jEdit-devel <
> jedit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> I tried to install Jetpack but the instructions do not work on my
>> particular combo of platform, wordpress server, and browser.
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> * [plugin-feature-requests:#390]
>> <https://sourceforge.net/p/jedit/plugin-feature-requests/390/> WordPress
>> editor plugin*
>>
>> *Status:* open
>> *Group:*
>> *Created:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC by Alan Ezust
>> *Last Updated:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC
>> *Owner:* nobody
>>
>> I hate editing things in a web browser, especially when it is browsing
>> WordPress.
>> I wish I could edit pages/content from jEdit.
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Sent from sourceforge.net because jedit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net is
>> subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/jedit/plugin-feature-requests/
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I don't know enough about wordpress yet to answer your question, Dale.
I am not sure what format wordpress content is stored in. If it is simple HTML on a regular file system, then the SFTP plugin + the HTML sidekick might be good enough.

If wordpress uses a database to store its content, then we need a way to read/write to that database.

If the file format is not HTML or XML, but some other format, I guess we would need an edit mode for that too. If it was XML, we'd need a formal grammar/schema definition for it.

There are 2 things being discussed here it seems:

1- Developing for WordPress

WordPress is developed using PHP with a database for storage. So, to
develop a WP plugin, for example, you'd just need an IDE that can work with
PHP and possibly JS/CSS/HTML. You probably don't need to access the data in
the DB directly.

If you're developing themes for WordPress, again, you need an IDE that can
handle PHP/JS/CSS/HTML

2- Writing/Posting/Blogging to WordPress

If you're wanting to create a plugin in jEdit that allows you to write your
blog post/articles in jEdit and post them directly to a WordPress site, you
can take a look at this page:

https://codex.wordpress.org/XML-RPC_Support

"WordPress uses an XML-RPC interface. WordPress has its own implementation
for WordPress-specific functionality in an API called the WordPress API.
This should be used when possible, and your client should use the API
variants beginning with the wp prefix."

Of course you'd be rewriting all the functionality that's already available
in the admin UI in WP for writing, or, in the WordPress.com app, but it's
possible.

I hope that helps.

thanks


On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:52 PM Alan Ezust via jEdit-devel <
jedit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> I don't know enough about wordpress yet to answer your question, Dale.
> I am not sure what format wordpress content is stored in. If it is simple
> HTML on a regular file system, then the SFTP plugin + the HTML sidekick
> might be good enough.
>
> If wordpress uses a database to store its content, then we need a way to
> read/write to that database.
>
> If the file format is not HTML or XML, but some other format, I guess we
> would need an edit mode for that too. If it was XML, we'd need a formal
> grammar/schema definition for it.
> ------------------------------
>
> * [plugin-feature-requests:#390]
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/jedit/plugin-feature-requests/390/> WordPress
> editor plugin*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Group:*
> *Created:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC by Alan Ezust
> *Last Updated:* Fri May 04, 2018 03:32 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> I hate editing things in a web browser, especially when it is browsing
> WordPress.
> I wish I could edit pages/content from jEdit.
> ------------------------------
>
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